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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/6/2010 7:05:12 PM
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karlie
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You are going to be one busy person! Are you excited about starting the practicum?
I really am. Nervous too, though! But, I know God has gone before me and paved the way to this exact place, so I have confidence that it will be just what I need. They work in the exact area I want to specialize in, so it will be perfect for me.
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Well, I started gen chem 2 today and I am already wanting it to be over.
LOL! Don't you hate that?? That's how I was in psychopharm. I knew the day I walked in there that it was not going to be fun!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/9/2010 2:30:37 AM
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...... I just noticed this thread. 
I'm gonna kick my denial in the hiney.... I was trying to figure out when I took ENGL 101... and realized it was 12 years ago!!!  (there is no smiley to portray how I felt at that moment.)
I'm currently working towards my bachelor's in Psychology/Christian Counseling. This is my first semester back to school since I graduated with an Associates in 2000.
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/10/2010 11:01:09 PM
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...... I just noticed this thread.
I'm gonna kick my denial in the hiney.... I was trying to figure out when I took ENGL 101... and realized it was 12 years ago!!! (there is no smiley to portray how I felt at that moment.)
I'm currently working towards my bachelor's in Psychology/Christian Counseling. This is my first semester back to school since I graduated with an Associates in 2000.
Lol..it's okay! Welcome to the thread!  Very cool, so are you taking any classes this summer? How about the coming fall?
A little complaining here..lol. I feel like 4 weeks have gone by, and not one.lol. I spent all last night doing chem problems, and this morning. And I also spent 6 hours straight earlier today working on this chemistry online hw due Sunday night. It was horrible! The professor set it up where you had to get the answer correct 3 times in a row (it would generate another question, different numbers when you answered it right). For example, if you got Question #4 right the first 2 tries, and then got it wrong the 3rd try you had to do it over again ALL THREE TIMES! It was like this for about 8 or 9 of the questions. I think I did each question...an average of 5 or 6 times. You had to get the answer correct 3 or 2 consecutive times in row or else you were in big doo doo and had to redo!
Yeah..I don't need to say how frustrated I got! I was so frustrated I almost cried. Oh, what's worse, you aren't given any explanations to how you got the question wrong, it just says you got it wrong. The only upside to all of this, I know how to do vapor pressure problems with my eyes closed..lol..how to find mole fraction of solvents and solutes using pure pressures, with masses given (or not given), with total pressure given or not given..yeah, you get the idea..so come exam time next week I will have no trouble at this stuff.lol. 
Oh well, I wasn't expecting it to take me 6 hours to do 17 problems. I didn't even get a chance to finish my lab report. I'm dying here!  Okay, off my soapbox rant of how unfair this all is.lol. 
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/11/2010 12:27:53 AM
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..... Summer D courses: ENGL 102 & HUMN 101. (I really love the Humanities class... although I wish my brain would wake up a little quicker. I got a C on my first test in that class. )
I'm glad they stagger online classes...
Fall B Courses:
BIBL 104 (Survey of the Bible)
HIUS 221(American History)
Fall D Courses:
PSYC 210 (Psychology)
THEO 104 (Theology)
I forgot how much studying time it takes to work through a class! I don't remember it being sooo much.
Your chemistry class sounds frustrating... 
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/11/2010 10:23:00 PM
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..... Humanities is my fave. It's important to know where we came from in order to help us make informed decisions for the future! (That's it in a nutshell.)
We have been studying prehistoric art which gives us important clues to how people lived back then... now we are studying Greek civilization (they are one of the best models). I think what I love most about school is how each teacher will stop during a lecture and explain how what we are learning relates to our Christian walk.
I did my associates at a secular college... and the teacher that made the most impact on me was of a different faith... so there were lots of ideas he talked about that really didn't connect with me. (I'm still glad he was part of my life.)
Compared to the other college... this one is really feeding my soul!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/12/2010 10:21:17 AM
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...... I attend Liberty University - online.
I think it's great!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/14/2010 11:14:39 PM
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I think it's great!
Cool!
Argh, this chemistry class is really trying my patience! lol. Every minute I'm not in class, lab, eating, OR sleeping I'm working on chemistry lab reports or HW. Three times a week, I wake up really early in the morning so I can work out at the gym before I start my day (or else I'd make excuses why I shouldn't work out.lol..so best to do it first thing 6am!), and the days I'm not going to the gym in the morning, I wake up early anyways to do..yup, chemistry! I get to bed late from working chem problems (or finishing lab reports). This is weekdays, weekends I also devote to studying.
I'm counting down the days until the class is over.lol. I love chemistry, but even for me this 4 week summer class is so much work! I just keep remembering the end goal, get an A and do well. I have been keeping track of the % completion of the class and lab (you know, figuring out total number of days the class or lab meets, and then calculating how much class and labs I've attended..haha..) I'm so geeky.lol.
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/15/2010 12:44:22 PM
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You had to get the answer correct 3 or 2 consecutive times in row or else you were in big doo doo and had to redo!
Yeah..I don't need to say how frustrated I got! I was so frustrated I almost cried. Oh, what's worse, you aren't given any explanations to how you got the question wrong, it just says you got it wrong. The only upside to all of this, I know how to do vapor pressure problems with my eyes closed..lol..how to find mole fraction of solvents and solutes using pure pressures, with masses given (or not given), with total pressure given or not given..yeah, you get the idea..so come exam time next week I will have no trouble at this stuff.lol.
redo the doo doo. you do? hahha... it's waaaay too little time to cram in chem, and having to try again when you just missed the last one (clearly i dont get it or i'd have got it right!!) sounds super frustrating. but it would be easiest for a summer class for him to skim the actual problems and stick to theory, and it's really great that he's not. as you said, now you can do those types of probs up n down and all around, and you don't really know it til you can work problems. still stinks i can imagine... i've only taken language classes during summer sessions so far, so i can imagine even a basic science with a lab component too could take alllll the live long day. hope you're doing ok living and breathing chemistry!
i don't have much academic progress to report at work (pleaaaase let me keep my focus and write this stupid paper!!). i did take several practice tests for the mcat. hard to say what they mean, since scores were ok but if they drop on the real thing a few points i'd be pushing acceptable scores. and one of them wiped the floor with me and i'd need to GAIN a few to get to that borderline. hopefully that one was fatigue induced since i'd done a test a day for several days already at that point. eep!
gotta balance workwork and mcatprepwork.. balance balance balance...
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/16/2010 11:21:23 AM
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redo the doo doo. you do? hahha... it's waaaay too little time to cram in chem, and having to try again when you just missed the last one (clearly i dont get it or i'd have got it right!!) sounds super frustrating. but it would be easiest for a summer class for him to skim the actual problems and stick to theory, and it's really great that he's not. as you said, now you can do those types of probs up n down and all around, and you don't really know it til you can work problems. still stinks i can imagine... i've only taken language classes during summer sessions so far, so i can imagine even a basic science with a lab component too could take alllll the live long day. hope you're doing ok living and breathing chemistry!
Yup, it was insane! Glad that HW is over with!! Okay I just took the 1st try of my exam today and I got a 75%. I missed 2 easy problems due to math errors or else I would have gotten an 87, don't you hate when that happens! It was 16 problems multiple choice, all chemistry math problems except for one concept problem. 
I don't feel so upset about that score for several reasons. Most other students had scores ranging from 18, to 37, to 50 (we take them on computers in a testing center, and you can "grade" your questions as you complete them to know how you've done while you take your exam..I was curious to know how others were doing..lol). So I don't feel so bad. And I imagine the curve will be a considerable amount so I guess technically I don't have a 75%.lol.
I think I am good in chemistry, I'm an A student, and I've studied this stuff backwards and forwards but the prof makes the questions intentionally tricky. I thought it was a hard test, if I thought it was hard, and got a 75% I can't imagine how other students in class fared.
I get to re-take this exam again Monday afternoon so I'm going to try and see if I can do better. The higher of the 2 scores is counted as the final score for the exam.
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i don't have much academic progress to report at work (pleaaaase let me keep my focus and write this stupid paper!!). i did take several practice tests for the mcat. hard to say what they mean, since scores were ok but if they drop on the real thing a few points i'd be pushing acceptable scores. and one of them wiped the floor with me and i'd need to GAIN a few to get to that borderline. hopefully that one was fatigue induced since i'd done a test a day for several days already at that point. eep!
gotta balance workwork and mcatprepwork.. balance balance balance...
Lol. Don't you hate when you have several things competing for your time at once? What is an acceptable score that is the minimum you need to be considered a competitive applicant to med school? What is the highest score you can get?
All I have to say is I hate tests.lol. What if you're having a bad day and you know the material 100% but get a dismal score? Or what if you just don't do well on test formats? I hate tests!!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/17/2010 10:48:06 AM
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Ah! That's horrible! Yeah, so you basically have to study everything "just in case". I'm like you, I'd probably be panicking too.lol. How much does mcat tests cost?
karlie, that's great. Easy classes are always a welcome relief! What class were you taking?
The exams are 16 questions long and they are multiple choice. Well, usually with chemistry that shouldn't be a problem, and isn't for me. When I took Gen chem I, I easily got A's without curve and it was formatted like that. Most, if not all, problems were math and if you know how to do the math you get the exact answer listed as multiple choice answer, easily eliminating the wrong numbers. For me, the structure of chem is easy for me to learn. That prof I had for gen chem I was straightforward in his questions. While I suppose it was difficult material, if you knew the material, knew how to solve chem word math problems, you had no problem. He had no intentionally tricky questions.lol. He tested you on your knowledge, which was fair!
The prof I have for gen chem II on the other hand is very mathematically inclined, which I guess makes sense since this class is all math, but I have no problem with math it's the way he uses it.lol. What gets me is he gives you answers like "334.36" and "334.06" so you have to make sure your calculations are EXACT and no rounding til the end. It's pretty crazy, so inevitably you will make a math error due to keeping track of all those significant figures. Sometimes I feel he's testing us on picky math calculations. IMO, I'd think a prof would want to make sure the students understand the concepts behind the chemistry problems, not focus on the math itself so much. In class, he shows us how they get to the math equation we use for certain chem problems (how they derive it) and I think to myself "This isn't a math class, why do I need to know that?"
I guess I"m just frustrated because I prepared so much for this class. I read all the chapters, took notes. I read the chapters twice! I did sample problems for the first 4 chapters. And all that before the class even started. I have come to every class. I have studied dozens of problems, working them from every way possible that he's given (he uses his own questions and provides samples for us to work on). These sample questions are similar in format to his exam, like he lifts them straight from the samples. When I'm not sleeping or eating, I'm studying chemistry. When I'm not studying chemistry I am thinking about problems in my head.lol. I even had a dream about working on chem problems last night, isn't that sad?
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/17/2010 12:41:19 PM
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karlie, that's great. Easy classes are always a welcome relief! What class were you taking?
It's Child and Adolescent Counseling. A lot of child development which is all review for me, but starting to get into the counseling techniques now, which I love learning. It'll probably get more challenging from here on out...lots of role plays and things.
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When I'm not studying chemistry I am thinking about problems in my head.lol. I even had a dream about working on chem problems last night, isn't that sad?
LOL! I totally get that feeling! The harder classes can be all consuming! In psychopharm, I would fall asleep classifying medications and going over side effects and interactions. I even dreamed once I got called by a pharmacist and got a pop quiz over the phone!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/18/2010 11:46:12 AM
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Cool. Role playing sounds fun! So what kind of role playing does your class involve?
It all depends on the class and what we're covering. Each class is pretty specific to a certain population. This particular class is kids and adolescents, so we're dealing with childhood disorders. Role-playing is part of our grade, so each of us have to take turns being the therapist and practice with the disorder/symptoms our "child"(another student) is presenting with. Sometimes we get to practice with our partner ahead of time, other times, we have no idea what is coming. It was really hard to get used to at first and I felt so uncomfortable in front of everyone, but I'm pretty used to it now. It's definitely teaching me a lot as we are critiqued by the professors as we go along. I'm getting really good reviews and evals, so it's going well for me.
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I'm at the half-way mark so I'm almost done!!
That's always a good feeling! I'm almost halfway through my entire program...yay! Good luck, I know you'll do great!
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RE: Older (Returning) Student Support Thread - 7/18/2010 8:09:28 PM
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So the times you don't know what the scenario is...you don't know it until you get up in front of class?
Yep. But, for the most part, it's dealing with whatever population the class is teaching, so we do have some idea at least the age group and possible problems.
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I'd probably get nervous and make more mistakes than I would have if I wasn't having to perform for an audience..
Me too! I am much more relaxed and comfortable when I am working one on one than with an audience. I'm very glad therapy sessions are private!
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At least I got it finished so I can relax the rest of the night! I still have to read next experiment for tomorrow but I am in no shape to do that tonight. I know this is a little sad, but I can't wait for the weekend so I can really focus on doing all the homework and things I need to do to prepare for exam next Friday. 
Sounds backwards, right? 
I spent all a few hours last night working on ONE lab report! 
..I still love chemistry. It's human nature, we complain about everything...myself included!