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Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 8:39:25 AM
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billbaileybfafan
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I came to this heading, but can't find any threads that deal with the Protestant Reformation or anything that I would consider protestant. Is protestant used on this forum as a term that means "non catholic"??
Just curious as to how that term is defined by most folks.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 8:49:07 AM
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Without taking the time to review my history books, I understand the term "Protestant" to refer to those doctrinal traditions that have descended from the original "Protesters" to the RCC in the 1500s. In an oversimplified generalization, they comprise the denominational traditions of Lutheranism, Calvinism, and Wesleyan/Arminianism. I recall there are a few minority denominations such as Anabaptist but the vast majority of current Protestant denominations can trace their roots back to one of the big three - Luther, Calvin or Wesley.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 9:57:39 AM
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It's a slower folder, and the really theological threads go over to the theology folders. :)
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 10:30:41 AM
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billbaileybfafan
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Oh ok, thanks for the answer TA, i appreciate it.
As to the first reply, I understand the principles of the protestant movement, i just wasnt sure if this folder was in that tradition or in the broader tradition that basically means "non-catholic"
Thanks for the reply though.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 12:12:31 PM
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i just wasnt sure if this folder was in that tradition or in the broader tradition that basically means "non-catholic" What "broader tradition" are you referring to, bbfan? I have a mighty hard time classifying Eastern Orthodox, Messianics, Syriac and Coptic Christians, all of whom are most assuredly "non-Catholic", to be "Protestant" in any way, shape, or form!
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 12:48:16 PM
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The folder is only for "conservative evangelical protestant Christians". We don't have an approval process or anything, so if a believer thinks he is a "conservative evangelical protestant Christian" then he may post here. For example, some Messianics consider themselves protestants, so we allow them to post.
That's the official position on the definition of this folder.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 12:50:33 PM
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In this folder "Protestant" is pretty much self-defined. For example, many Messianics do not consider themselves to be Protestant, and Anglicans are not technically Protestant, but Messianics and Anglicans who consider themselves to be Protestant can post here.
Non-Trinitarians would not be able to post in this folder, nor would any other denomination that denied one or more of the parts of the Statement of Faith.
So...if you agree with the Statement of Faith *and* consider yourself to be Protestant, you can post in this folder.
Clearer?
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 5:26:16 PM
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Yeah, thanks to the mods for the time taken to explain. I understand better now.
To Dr. Mark. - I wasn't trying to be that extreme. I know that ALOT of Baptists don't consider themselves Protestants, but a separate stream of believers that existed along side the Catholic church almost in secret, and therefore weren't protesting anything. They don't align with Luther or any of the other reformers. I wasn't talking about the eastern orthodox and such.
I for one AM a Baptist, but do consider myself a protestant. I am more in line with John Piper and the like.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 6:23:05 PM
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and Anglicans are not technically Protestant, This made me review the history of the Church of England which was indeed a curious blend of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism in its earliest form. But given that the initial separation of the Anglican Church under King Henry VIII occurred about 17 years after Luther posted his 95 theses, it seems to me that Anglicans are squarely in the "Protest" movement of the Reformation.
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I know that ALOT of Baptists don't consider themselves Protestants, but a separate stream of believers that existed along side the Catholic church almost in secret, and therefore weren't protesting anything. I've never heard such a thing, bbfan. What I briefly reviewed indicates that Baptists began with John Smyth, an ordained Anglican priest, who broke away from the Anglican Church around 1600 and set up his own church in Holland which was strongly Reformational Protestant at that time. it's hard to believe any of those early Baptists considered themselves "closet Catholics"!
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 7:51:12 PM
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Dr. Mark, I didn't mean that they were "closet Catholics" just that they existed at the same time as the Catholics, that the "true church" meaning them, did not come from the Catholic Church, but were a pure line from the New Testament Church. I will try to find some of the stuff that I have read about this. I have heard it in sermons from some really hard core Independent Fundamental Baptists, of the Jack Hyles, John R. Rice, Sword of the Lord type.
They do claim that Baptists aren't from the protestant church. A man named Texe Marrs, a rather militant Baptist and all around conspiracy nut, espouses this, as does former Catholic, turned Baptist preacher Sam Gipp.
I will look around and see if I can find some links to this stuff.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 8:27:38 PM
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Thanks for the links, bbfan. They are interesting but not completely accurate in my estimation.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 5/31/2010 8:43:05 PM
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Oh I know.. I don't line up with these folks either, I have just heard this stuff before.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 6/20/2010 9:09:25 PM
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There is a tradition within the Baptists, particularly Southern Baptists, that trace their "trail of blood" all the way back to none other than John the Baptist. Generally this teaching is presented in what's called Landmarkism.
Some folks have made that into a broader scope of definition, and many SBC churches I'm familiar with practice some forms of it. Such as the prohibition of accepting folks baptized as infants, and baptized by means other than immersion, and "alien baptism" which means basically baptism which is adult immersion but done by any other church outside of Baptist.
I know it was confusing for one person to go to a baptist church in England and find a similar worship style as a more Reformed Church rather than something more akin to a tent meeting style. They wrote a book of their experience and it was a good read. I forget the title, sorry.
I was in an adult Sunday School Class at First Baptist Church in our area, and a prominent person in the church stated that they didn't see what was wrong with our associating with folks from other religions - "you know, like Methodists, and Presbyterians, and..." is essentially what they said but not verbatim.
We can get a chuckle from that, but terms are often used however people want them to be. This is the joy of having conversation with folks where there is somewhat of a shared vocabulary.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 6/24/2010 7:22:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito
It's a slower folder, and the really theological threads go over to the theology folders. :) When this folder was moved from a primary spot to a subfolder of general faith, I pm'd Fritz to ask if it had lost traffic. He said that there was no noticable drop. With there only being 7 or 8 threads showing activity in the last 30 days it would seem that it is not the case now.
This forum used to be really active.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 6/24/2010 7:26:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito
The folder is only for "conservative evangelical protestant Christians". We don't have an approval process or anything, so if a believer thinks he is a "conservative evangelical protestant Christian" then he may post here. For example, some Messianics consider themselves protestants, so we allow them to post.
That's the official position on the definition of this folder.
I had a very lengthy round of pms and emails with Fritz over a couple of weeks before he granted me permission to post here. He questioned me at length on several doctrinal points. That was when this forum was first set up.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 6/28/2010 3:24:49 AM
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Well, I'm glad I fit in with a belief that I am an orthodox, evangelical, fundamental, charismatic, protestant, reformed, apostolic, classic Christian who is Kingdom of God oriented in my worldview.
But still perhaps someone should screen me through a bunch of pms also.
Apparently I do not fit into some folks definitions of these terms.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 7/7/2010 10:01:23 AM
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I am fairly new, (a couple of years) to the reformed doctrines, so that's why I was hoping that this forum would be a place for some good reading and good advice.
Like I said, I am more of a Reformed Baptist. I have noticed from my reading of scripture, that I am in line, as I said before alot with John Piper, and John MacArthur.
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RE: Where are the Protestant threads?? - 7/7/2010 10:07:27 AM
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ORIGINAL: billbaileybfafan
I am fairly new, (a couple of years) to the reformed doctrines, so that's why I was hoping that this forum would be a place for some good reading and good advice.
Like I said, I am more of a Reformed Baptist. I have noticed from my reading of scripture, that I am in line, as I said before alot with John Piper, and John MacArthur.
There is a thread that might interest you named "Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2010 edition" in:
All Forums >> [Theology] >> Theo House
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